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 Post subject: Is it possible to add into User defined menu Acronis?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:59 pm 
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That means I own an official Acronis version.

Does anyone here knowing Linux could please explain, what's wrong ...

Is Acronis ramdisk.dat compatible and capable to run from UBCD?

Acronis supports creating a bootable media and my guess is it's a linux also.
I have created with Acronis tools a bootable Acronis USB HDD and now I'm trying to add Acronis application to UBCD main menu and to run it from UBCD.

1. The content of Acronis syslinux.cfg from Acronis Bootable USB media (external HDD)::

timeout 100
default ati
label ati
kernel kernel.dat
append initrd=ramdisk.dat vga=0x314 ramdisk_size=40000 quiet

The file to run from Acronis Bootable USB media (external HDD):
ramdisk.dat

All work was done in Windows 7 environment.
I added to UBCD USB version boot menu new label "Acronis" and copied ramdisk.dat and SYSLINUX.cfg to UBCD.
When selecting Acronis there opens a blue window with text "ati" and press [Tab] to edit options.
The "Ati" is in restart loop of 10 seconds.
But when I select {Tab] there appears line from Acronis CFG:
>kernel.dat initrd=ramdisk.dat vga=0x314 ramdisk_size=40000 quiet

What is wrong with this line and how to make it UIBCD compatible?
Any ideas?
Thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: Is it possible to add into User defined menu Acronis?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:34 pm 
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I would confirm and add the path to the files:

timeout 100
default ati
label ati
kernel <path to>kernel.dat
append initrd=<path to>ramdisk.dat vga=0x314 ramdisk_size=40000 quiet


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 Post subject: Re: Is it possible to add into User defined menu Acronis?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:09 pm 
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Thanks for the hint.
If there is no command syntax error, then the result is still the same.
When selecting Acronis there opens a blue window with text "ati" and press [Tab] to edit options.
The "Ati" is in restart loop of 10 seconds.
But when I select {Tab] there appears line from Acronis CFG:
>kernel.dat initrd=ramdisk.dat vga=0x314 ramdisk_size=40000 quiet


UBCD main menu entry is:

LABEL -
MENU LABEL Acronis
COM32 /boot/syslinux/menu.c32
APPEND /ubcd/acronis/syslinux.cfg


Testing opens the target syslinux.cfg

Content of Acronis folder syslinux.cfg is now with path:

timeout 100
default ati
label ati
kernel /ubcd/acronis/kernel.dat
append initrd=/ubcd/acronis/ramdisk.dat vga=0x314 ramdisk_size=40000 quiet


Any ideas what might be wrong?
The path in Windows OS: drive:\ubcd\acronis
Thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: Is it possible to add into User defined menu Acronis?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:54 am 
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I'd like a clarification. When you say that "ati" appears, do you mean that "ati" is the first and only option, or do you mean that you first see the normal UBCD menu and THEN you select "Acronis" and THEN you get to the "ati" boot option?

At least for testing, I would suggest using the same tree / path that you have in your original Acronis media.

Start with a clean, original UBCD. Instead of copying all into /ubcd/acronis/, copy all into the root of the customized UBCD. Then rename the new syslinux.cfg from acronis to acronis.cfg, leaving it in the equivalent location as it was in your original acronis media (the base of the CD?).

That would mean that no paths need changing.

Finally, in /ubcd/custom/custom.cfg, add:

Code:
LABEL -
MENU LABEL Acronis
COM32 /boot/syslinux/menu.c32
APPEND /acronis.cfg


if the acronis.cfg (ex- syslinux.cfg in acronis media) was supposed to be in the base root directory.

Re-build the ISO / UFD and boot UBCD -> User-defined -> ati. Please report back. (There might be some additional minor adjustments / improvements, but let's wait for your report first).


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 Post subject: Re: Is it possible to add into User defined menu Acronis?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:17 am 
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Quote:
I'd like a clarification. When you say that "ati" appears, do you mean that "ati" is the first and only option, or do you mean that you first see the normal UBCD menu and THEN you select "Acronis" and THEN you get to the "ati" boot option?


The menu works -
1. I see Acronis in UBCD menu and when selected, the link to syslinux.cfg works,
2. there opens a windows with blue background and in the windows there is a single word ATI
and below is the "press [Tab] to edit options".
3. when I select {Tab] there appears line from Acronis CFG:
>kernel.dat initrd=ramdisk.dat vga=0x314 ramdisk_size=40000 quiet

I'm working with USB stick which I created with the tool on UBCD CD.
Therefore I believe that there is no need to rebuild any ISO?
And I can just copy Acronis to USB stick.

Now I moved Acronis ramdisk.dat and acronis.cfg to the root folder of USB stick.
And I renamed syslinux.cfg to acronis.cfg

Looks like the pricess stops at kernel kernel.dat?
What is this kernel below expected to be? An hidden linux file?
Something which doesn't exist on UBCD?
Something I can't see and copy from Arconis USB stick?


The content of acronis.cfg
is:
timeout 100
default ati
label ati
kernel kernel.dat
append initrd=ramdisk.dat vga=0x314 ramdisk_size=40000 quiet

But no changes, still there opens the same blue window with a word ATI in it.


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 Post subject: Re: Is it possible to add into User defined menu Acronis?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:59 am 
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Are you seeing all hidden + system files in Windows Explorer? I ask because the kernel.dat is a file from Acronis.

In the original Acronis UFD, if all the files are in the root (as oppose to some sub-directory), then you should also see that kernel.dat there, in the same (root) directory as "ramdisk.dat". If the original files are not originally from the root of the original Acronis UFD, then please report where exactly they were.

If indeed all the original files from Acronis were at the root directory, then copy them to the root directory of your customized UBCD UFD and the "acronis.cfg" should be:

Code:
DEFAULT ati
PROMPT 0
TIMEOUT 100
ONTIMEOUT ati

LABEL ati
KERNEL /kernel.dat
APPEND initrd=/ramdisk.dat vga=0x314 ramdisk_size=40000 quiet


I made some very little changes from your previously posted cfg, but they might make all the difference (specially /kernel.dat
and initrd=/ramdisk.dat, but pay attention to all the changes).

The above cfg file is valid IF indeed all the original Acronis files should be in the root of the UFD, and don't forget the addition to the custom.cfg I mentioned before, using the correct "acronis.cfg".

I want to be clear: in this case, you shall change the "syslinux.cfg" file from Acronis to "acronis.cfg" to minimize a potential problem with SYSLINUX.

Then when you boot, you select "user-defined" and then wait those 10 seconds for "ati" to start (no pressing <tab>, nor anything else, just wait and see what happens).

If this works, we can improve it a little bit more, but the mentioned ".dat" files should come from Acronis. If it doesn't work at all, please report the exact original path of each file from the original Acronis UFD and the exact content of the original "syslinux.cfg" from Acronis that you know to be working.


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 Post subject: Re: Is it possible to add into User defined menu Acronis?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:00 am 
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Thanks for your time!
Acronis True Image Build 8.018 starts now from UBCD!


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 Post subject: Re: Is it possible to add into User defined menu Acronis?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:31 pm 
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Good to know. As I said, there are some potential improvements, but I guess you are OK with the new working status :). Enjoy.


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