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 Post subject: IS UBCD RIGHT FOR ME?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:20 am 
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This is my prblem:

i resized my win xp pro ntfs partition with partition magic... the thing i that the program not only resized it but moved to las place in HD. I think this caused windows not to load..

i get a message just after i turn on my PC and the bios starts...:

"Mising operating system"

do you think i can do somthing with UBCD??? like moving that partition or making it bootable??


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 Post subject: IS UBCD RIGHT FOR ME?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:17 pm 
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Why can't you use Partition Magic to move the partition back to the
front of the HDD again?


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 Post subject: I CANT
PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:44 pm 
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CAUSE I DIT IT FROM WINDOWS AND IT WONT BOOT WINDOWS... I DONT HAVE PARTITION MAGIC BOOT DISK.

I FOUND MY PROBLEM IS GETTING BIGGER... SOME PART OF THE WIN PARTITION (WHERE BOOT INFO IS STORED I GUESS) IS CORRUPT SO I CANT MAKE IT BOOTABLE.

I ALSO CHEQUED THE MBR AND I THINK I MESSED UP. HOW CAN I RECOVER MY INFO FROM THE WIN PARTITION? IVE USED ACTIVE PARTITION RECOVERY BUT I CANT WRITE A PARTITION IMAGE TO THE SAME FISICAL HD. ALSO IF I MANAGE TO DO THAT HOW CAN I RESTORE THE PARTITION WITHOUT RESTORING THE CORRUPT SECTORS.

THE LAST THINK IVE TIED IS TO INSTALL LINUX IN ANOTHER PARTITION SO I CAN ACCESS THE OTHER PARTITION FROM THERE AND RECOVER SOME FILES BUT IT WOULD NOT BOOT FROM LINUX NEITHER. THATS WHY I THINK I MESSED SOMETHING IN THE MBR.

I DESPERATED!!!!! :evil: NEED SOME HELP PLEASE!!!!


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 Post subject: IS UBCD RIGHT FOR ME?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 4:15 pm 
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I can't help specifically with your booting problem now;
(and may not be able to at all), but let's start with
a little background information to see what you're working
with:

How many physical disk drives are installed in the computer?
Do you have access to a USB drive, USB pen-drive, or a network?
Did you backup your system before running PM?
On a scale of 1-10, how would you rate your Linux skills?
Do you have UBCD 3.2? Is it the Full version (with Insert)?

Before attempting to repair your problem, you're going to want
to get a backup, at least of your data files so the situation
does not go from bad to disastrous. By answering the questions
above we'll be able to see what you have to work with in order
to accomplish the backup and can advise how to do it.

Once you have your data safely tucked away, we can look at
your MBR/partition issues.

As far as I'm aware, Active Partition Recovery will only recover
a partition you've saved, and that of course, must be a non-corrupt
copy of your MBR.

I'll check back later tonight to see what you say.

-- Charles

> -----Original Message-----
> From: JFTM [mailto:support@ultimatebootcd.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 4:45 PM
> To: support@ultimatebootcd.com
> Subject: IS UBCD RIGHT FOR ME?
>
> CAUSE I DIT IT FROM WINDOWS AND IT WONT BOOT WINDOWS... I
> DONT HAVE PARTITION MAGIC BOOT DISK.
>
> I FOUND MY PROBLEM IS GETTING BIGGER... SOME PART OF THE WIN
> PARTITION (WHERE BOOT INFO IS STORED I GUESS) IS CORRUPT SO I
> CANT MAKE IT BOOTABLE.
>
> I ALSO CHEQUED THE MBR AND I THINK I MESSED UP. HOW CAN I
> RECOVER MY INFO FROM THE WIN PARTITION? IVE USED ACTIVE
> PARTITION RECOVERY BUT I CANT WRITE A PARTITION IMAGE TO THE
> SAME FISICAL HD. ALSO IF I MANAGE TO DO THAT HOW CAN I
> RESTORE THE PARTITION WITHOUT RESTORING THE CORRUPT SECTORS.
>
> THE LAST THINK IVE TIED IS TO INSTALL LINUX IN ANOTHER
> PARTITION SO I CAN ACCESS THE OTHER PARTITION FROM THERE AND
> RECOVER SOME FILES BUT IT WOULD NOT BOOT FROM LINUX NEITHER.
> THATS WHY I THINK I MESSED SOMETHING IN THE MBR.
>
> I DESPERATED!!!!! [Evil or Very Mad] NEED SOME HELP PLEASE!!!!
>
>


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 4:32 pm 
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OK THKS!!

ANSWERS:

1.- 1 FISICAL HD

- FLOPPY
- CD BURNER
2.- USB flash drive (512 mb)
Network (just workgroup via router)

3.- NO BACKUP
4.- 2
5.- UBCD v.3.2 (NO INSERT)

NOTES:

My computer is a HP NoteBook (have the system restore cd's that are disk image of the original HD - made with some PowerQuest tool).

I'm interested only in somre critical files, if the entire partition is recoverd thats ok, but if its easier to backup only some files would be better.

all the "critical files" make about 1 gb

THAKS FOR ALL YOUR HELP!!

THE UBCD IS JUST EXCELENT THERE ARE MANY TOOLS ONCE I WANTED (BEFORE THIS) AND NEVER FOUD/HAVE THE TIME TO MAKE THE BOOT CD.

HOPE YOU CAN HELP... :wink:


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 6:16 pm 
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If you need to easily recover some files, have you tried the Ultimate Boot CD 4 Windows? Not to harp on the UBCD, as I LOVE the UBCD and use it everyday (actually in conjunction with the UBCD4Win as you can combine them), but doing some tasks like you need in Windows is easier than in DOS. You can either burn files to CD or transfer over a network to another computer or something. Also may be of use in recovering your Windows installation. :)

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 7:03 pm 
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THAKS FOR YOUR HELP... BUT I CANT BUILD CD I DONT HAVE WINDOWS XP INSTALATION CD´S AS MY COMPUTER CAME WITH SYSTEM RESTORE CDS CONTAINING THE IMAGE OR THE ORIGINAL HDD AND I CANT NAVIGATE TROUGH IT.

IF THERE IS A COMPILED ISO IMAGE I COULD TRY...

I KNOW YOU CANNOT MAKE ISOS BECAUSE OF COPYRIGHT LAWS...


I THINK ILL TRY FIRST WITH ORIGINAL UBCD AND IF I CANT DO ANYTHING ILL FIND THAT XP CD SOMEWHERE AND TRY UBCD4WIN.

BTW...

IS THERE ANY FAST MIRROR TO DOWNLOAD? MY CONNECTION IS PRETTY FAST, DOWNLOADED REDHAT DVD IN 3 HOURS I GUESS THE REDHAT SERVER HELPED, BUT I CANT DOWNLOAD UBCD4WIN FASTER THAN 50 KBPS

THANKS ANYWAY

THANKS ANYWAY


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 7:15 pm 
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OOPS

I WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR THE LAST THING I SAID ABOUT THE SPEED... NOW ITS WORKING...

DOWNLOADING AT.

230 KBPS

I THINK ILL TRY THIS METOD OVERNIGHT I CAN ALSO DOWNLOAD AN ISO IMAGE OF WIN XP CD RIGHT? IM NOT BREAKING COPYRIGHT LAW CAUSE I OWN AN ORIGINAL LICENSE OF THE PROGRAM... CORRECT ME IF WRONG PLEASE...


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 7:19 pm 
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If you got your computer from Dell or Gateway or something, you do legally own a copy of XP (if that's what it came with) even if they didn't send you a full blown XP CD. But, I'm not sure if you can just download an ISO of XP from Microsoft, but I've heard of others calling or emailing MS and getting them to send a regular XP installation CD so that they have one just in case, since they already own a license through their Dell/Gateway/etc. purchase.

Anyway, if you get everything figured out, let me know how it goes. Sorry I can't provide much more than this and I can't provide a working ISO of the UBCD4Win (because, as you said, of copyright issues). I hope all goes well. :)

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 7:35 pm 
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IVE RESOLVED COPYRIGHT ISSUE ABOUT WINDOWS XP...

YOU CAN ASK FOR A MEDIA INSTALATION ( WINXP CD ) FROM ANY MICROSOFT RESELLER AND ITS ABOUT 7 DLLS. AND ALSO CAN BUY A LICENSE THAT ITS ABOUT 90 DLS OR LESS FOR ACADEMIC...

THE LARGE CORPORATIONS USUALLY BUY 100'S OF LICENSES AND FEW INSTALLATION MEDIAS AS ITS CHEAPER THAN BUYING 100'S OF BOXED WINDOWS, AND BECAUSE THEY HAVE ONLY FEW GUYS TO DO THE JOB.

ITS FUNNY I GUESS


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 Post subject: IS UBCD RIGHT FOR ME?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 11:44 pm 
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> IVE RESOLVED COPYRIGHT ISSUE ABOUT WINDOWS XP...
>
> YOU CAN ASK FOR A MEDIA INSTALATION ( WINXP CD ) FROM ANY
> MICROSOFT RESELLER AND ITS ABOUT 7 DLLS. AND ALSO CAN BUY A
> LICENSE THAT ITS ABOUT 90 DLS OR LESS FOR ACADEMIC...

It definitely sounds like UBCD Windows is your best bet
for making a backup if you have the media to build it.
As far as the license goes, look on the bottom of your
laptop for a Windows sticker; this is your license. So
all you need it the media.

If for some reason you are unable to get your Win UBCD
built, you can go the Linux route, but there will be many
things you'll have to do/learn to get your backup.

Let us know if you need assistance making a backup using
a Linux bootable.

-- Charles


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 7:28 pm 
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OK, IVE BUILT THE UBCD4WIN AND RUN IT...

TRIED TO NAVIGATE NTFS PARTITION WITH XP EXPLORER... BUT WHEN I CLIC ON "DRIVE C:" IT TAKES ABOUT 2 SECS AND THEN DISAPEARS.

IN THE DESKTOP BACKGROUD IT SAYS VOLUMES C:\ UNRECOGNIZED

WHAT CAN I DO NOW... SOME TIMES IVE RESOLVED PROBLEMS JUST BY TRYING ALL TOOLS RELATED AND FINALLY FINDING ONE THAT WORKS... BUT MY EXPIERENCE IN THIS CASE TELLS ME NOT TO DO ANYTHING SIENCE I LOSE MY INFO...

THAKS 4 ALL YOUR HELP...


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 Post subject: IS UBCD RIGHT FOR ME?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 10:13 pm 
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> OK, IVE BUILT THE UBCD4WIN AND RUN IT...
>
> TRIED TO NAVIGATE NTFS PARTITION WITH XP EXPLORER... BUT WHEN
> I CLIC ON "DRIVE C:" IT TAKES ABOUT 2 SECS AND THEN DISAPEARS.

Although there may be members here that are familiar with
UBCD Win, your best bet is to post questions to that
forum. The projects are separate, with different maintainers.
(I personally, don't know much about UBCD Win).

You should check out their FAQ, because it looks like it may
help with your situation. In the FAQ, it mentioned that drive
letters may differ when you're in the bootable environment, so
if you see other drive letters, check those as well. It also
sounds like they have a "Find Lost Drive" option; not sure
what it does so check it out.

http://www.ubcd4win.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=114

Lastly, please do not compose in CAPS; it is generally frowned
upon in electronic communications.

Please don't hesitate to post back if you need some more help;
but don't expect much help in this forum regarding UBCD Win.

Best,
Charles


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 3:22 pm 
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Yes, as bldrdash said, it's better to post in the UBCD4Win forums as they can help you there better. When I suggested you to use the UBCD4Win, I didn't mean to advertise it or frown upon the UBCD, as I really love both CDs. I don't mean any harm, I just thought the UBCD4Win could help better. As for your problem, please create a new topic in the UBCD4Win forums and either I or someone else will help you. Thanks. :)

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